Bedtime battles most often result from 1) problems in your child's schedule 2) problems setting limits as a parent and/or 3) sleep associations problems.
Listed below are some possible causes:
Listed below are some possible causes:
- May be going to bed too early. There are several things that often result in the occurrence of an earlier than needed bedtime: *Your child may be in his "forbidden zone for sleep" (see Biological Rhythms and Sleep) or not sleeping during his Nightly Sleep Phase. *He may be waking up too late in the morning. This results in a child needing a bedtime that is a bit later than he would normally need with an earlier morning wake up time. (see Nightly Sleep Phase). *Morning nap continues for too long or lasts too long This results in too much daytime sleep so while a child is tired in the afternoon and possibly cranky, he is not quite tired enough to fall asleep. This may also result in a later afternoon nap which might mean your child needs a later bedtime since he is not tired enough by his normal bedtime. To fix this drop the morning nap or shorten it. *Morning nap is too late. This makes the afternoon and possible other naps occur too late so your child is not tired enough by his bedtime since he has not had a waketime long enough. To fix this, move the morning nap and other naps slowly earlier each day.If this is not possible because you child won't fall to sleep at an earlier time, you may have to either shorten the morning nap significantly, drop it, or get your child up earlier in the morning.*Evening nap continues for too long or lasts too long. This may also result in your child getting too much sleep so he is unable to fall asleep at night even though he is somewhat tired (but not tired enough), or it may make it very difficult for your child to fall asleep at night simply because he has not had a long enough waketime following his evening nap before bedtime. To fix this eliminate the evening nap or make it shorter. *Evening nap is too late resulting in a need for a longer waketime before bedtime. To fix this either shorten the evening nap, drop it or slowly make it occur earlier each day(likely only possible if you are able to move the other naps earlier or if your child already has a longer than needed waketime before this nap).
- May be going to bed too late and is overtired. Have you recently dropped a nap and not made bedtime earlier? If so, incorporate a super early bedtime for a short time until your child gets used to not having this nap. Is your child staying up because he wants something, like television, mom/dad, toys etc. Is your child napping too late or too long into the evening and going to bed late? Even if waketime is appropriate before bedtime, a late nap can result in a fussy child when going to sleep.
- There is too much distracting, evening noise and/or fun activities going on that the child can hear.
- Your child may still be hungry. This is especially important to consider with babies under 8 weeks old since it is more common at this time. If baby isn't settling to sleep after 5-10 minutes when you put her to bed, try offering another feed to see if it helps. I generally suggest not feeding to sleep, but this is up to you.
- Your child's daily routine is inconsistent or inappropriate (naps, meals at the wrong times or at inconsistent times)
- Your child, not you, is running the show. Are you setting limits and being consistent? Do you let your child get out of bed once you have put him there? Are giving into your child because you are actually getting some secondary gains like getting to snuggle more before bed? Does your child go to bed more easily for other people?
- Your child may simply be wanting attention, even if it is negative attention. Is he getting enough attention during the day?
- Your child may be anxious. Leaving can make things worse. Still set limits, but don't leave your child alone in his room scared. Do try to not create too many bad habits while trying to deal with this anxiety.
Hi there,
ReplyDeleteJust wondering for your thoughts.
My son is 20 weeks old, and I've just started him on one taste of solid food a day.
He's been a really good sleeper, however lately he's been waking up about an hour after going to bed.
Our routine goes like this;
6:30am - 7am Wake and bf
7am - 8:00/8:30am Play
8:30am - Nap
10am - Wake and bf
10 - 11:30am Play
11:30am - Nap
12:30am/1pm - Wake and bf
1pm - 3pm - Play
3pm - 4:30pm/5pm - Nap
5pm - Wake, bf and solid food
5:30 - 6:30pm - Play
6:30pm - bath and top-up bf
7pm - bed
I've just introduced a dreamfeed at 9:30pm/10pm, as he was sleeping 12hours without feeding, and was advised by my midwife to get that extra feed in.
He doesn't wake up every night, but it has been more frequent. He'll cry emotionally and I'll shush and pat him, but will get very worked up.
He self-settles completely: I put him into his cot for day naps, and he's fine to go to sleep by himself. He will self-settle for his night time sleep too, so I'm at a loss as to what is causing him to wake up at night?!
In the past, I have been using a top-up bf right before bed, with which he was dozing off on, so I've stopped doing that, and switched his bf to right before bath time.
Your thoughts will be great. :)
Nomes,
ReplyDeleteHmmm, your routine seems pretty good. Did the problems start after the df was introduced?
This is a common sleep problem time, just fyi
How does he act when he wakes? How do you respond?
I'll keep thinking about it :)
Rachel
Hi Rachel,
ReplyDeleteI had written before regarding short naps, which I am glad to say have since resolved (he now takes 2- 1.5 hour naps and is much happier of a baby). Now I have a question regarding struggling to get our boy to sleep...
He has been soothing himself to sleep after our routine of reading books, singing while rocking, putting in crib drowsy but awake. Today, he woke at 8:00, and has been staying awake for 2 hours. Around 9:40 we began the pre-sleep routine, and while I was rocking and singing Elliot was very drowsy, but awake. I placed him in his crib, at which time he started moving around and fussing. He was awake for 20 minutes, cried for about 10, and then fell asleep. Do you think we are putting him to sleep too early? We have tried keeping him awake a bit longer to see if that helps, but he ends up doing the same thing and it takes about a half an hour for him to go to sleep. I have also tried putting him in his crib earlier, but then it seems he just takes longer to fall asleep. Or is this just a normal falling to sleep routine he needs to do to fall asleep by himself? Any thoughts? He still occasionally will want to nurse to fall asleep, which we have stopped doing, but there has been an occasional time where we still use nursing as part of the pre-sleep routine.
My guess is that it is a 1) waketime issues (sounds like it would be too little rather than too much since you've tried decreasing before), 2)an issue with him getting too drowsy before you set him in his crib and he then wakes up with the transition and has a second wind--to fix, put him to bed more awake or 3) normal. he needs a few minutes to settle before falling asleep (although it sounds a bit long of this age and I bet if this issue is involved, one of the other too is a bit also).
DeleteI hope that helped some and wasn't too confusing!
Rachel
Hi, I posted in another place but I think this is the right spot.
ReplyDeleteMy three and a half year old and 22 month old share a room. They've been sharing for almost 4 months. They used to be pretty good sleepers, especially the 22 month old. BUT now they consistently and purposely wake each other up. The 3 yr old is in a toddler bed and we put the 22 month back in his crib, but to no avail. We've tried everything. Even when we stagger bedtimes, the 3 yr old will go to the toddler's crib and call his name, tickle him, throw toys in his crib, anything to wake him. If they're both sleeping and one wakes early they will do whatever it takes to wake the other. We've tried Everything from rewards to threats to everything in between. Nothing has worked consistently! Now that we have a newborn in the house, I can't handle being up with her all night only to deal with them once I do get her to sleep. Please for some advice- them not sharing a room is not an option since we only have 3 bedrooms. My husband got so frustrated tonight, put the preschooler in our bed, but we know that can't be a long term solution and not a habit we want to start. Although, we are starting to do this for naps since they werent napping which was causing them to have horrible afternoons. We just don't know what to do at this point. We did have them going to bed at the same time but then they'd just stay up until they zonked out 2-3 hours later and be grouchy in the morning.
Inga Masek,
DeleteThat is a tricky situation. I'd work on being consistent with your discipline dy and night. Don't say something unless you mean it and always follow through right away. And especially make sure to stay firm but calm. I have a feeling that your little ones are acting up partly for fun and to get your attention and make you riled up. You might want to try not allowing the 3 year old out of bed without permission or until an alarm goes off. I use ok to wake clock here
http://www.mybabysleepguide.com/2012/05/ok-to-wake-clocks-and-lights-for-early.html
To do this, you'll have to explain the rules to her and be very consistent about putting her right back to bed calmly when she gets out with as little attention as you can. Use a video monitor if you have one or borrow one from a friend if you know someone who has one.
If they like having the door open, then you can close it part way then completely if they talk. Maybe they like a night light on and you can take one then another out if they disobey. Some kids do well to have some talking time and playing time together before bed, even if they go to bed at different times. Helped them get the talking and giggles out. You can try saying that staying in the room is a privilege. If they talk/get out of bed, they have to do X. X could be they have to sleep on the floor of the bathroom or somewhere else you have space. You'll have to think through what they wouldn't prefer (they might think it is fun at first but after a short while they likely won't if they are alone). Once again, try to do the consequence calmly and certainly have your husband step in and do this if you are watching the baby. You could also move the toddler out if the 3 year old misbehaves. Keep a pack n play in a closet or bathroom short term so she/he gets the point that it is better to not bug him/her and have him/her there. If they wake early in the morning and wake the other and make noises before it is time to get up (before a clock says so etc) then you can put them somewhere not very fun by themselves as a consequence. Ideally it would be nice if you can hear them before they wake the other child up but this might not be possible. The key is to try to be really hardcore and consistent for a short time and hopefully things will improve quickly.
The behavior may also be related to changes surrounding a new baby. Kids know when things are about to change or when they have just changed and sometimes act up a bit for a while.
Good luck! Not a fun time to have this going on. I imagine you are soo tired!