tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7230077724876087121.post351695683384235455..comments2023-08-22T01:59:18.988-06:00Comments on My Baby Sleep Guide | Your sleep problems, solved!: Is Cry It Out (CIO) Harmful?Rachel Rowellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02160855322599826360noreply@blogger.comBlogger201125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7230077724876087121.post-92130258123934746322014-02-14T09:06:43.188-07:002014-02-14T09:06:43.188-07:00Hi Rachel!
FYI - the links for weissbluthmethod.wo...Hi Rachel!<br />FYI - the links for weissbluthmethod.wordpress.com is no longer available.<br />Thanks! Love your website!!<br />Katie Katie Stapletonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02657434418755392088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7230077724876087121.post-17572811628714205072013-09-05T15:15:04.912-06:002013-09-05T15:15:04.912-06:00sorry one more thing, Rachel. there are some naps...sorry one more thing, Rachel. there are some naps where she goes down without a single tear/cry and she's fairly drowsy but again it may be from the overtiredness. but she goes down drowsy and falls asleep so then i get hope again. i'm just confused. Valerie says progress is a spiral and that it can take 8 weeks. feels like an eternity. it's not like she's even been screaming her head off for hours. i'm just not sure where to go from here because i know she's overtired. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17031360186350441060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7230077724876087121.post-76232515043278756212013-09-05T14:53:30.370-06:002013-09-05T14:53:30.370-06:00hi Rachel! i wish i was writing a success post =( ...hi Rachel! i wish i was writing a success post =( it has been 10-11 days since we started CIO and she is 5 wks and 2 days and i'm not certain about anything anymore! i think Valerie's kids are just great sleepers haha. mine alas are not. i think part of the issues is i'm still playing around with her waketime lengths. that being said, the nights are not going well either and i think it's because she's overtired from the "sleep training". she cries for less thatn 15-20 min on/off and goes to sleep but wakes up 20min into the nap - hence the overtiredness. i then put her in the swing and she can sleep about an hour to two hours more! i'm just not sure what to do at this point. i've been reading Valerie's website for encouragement and guidance and some readers have also said you just need to stick it out but i'm just not sure. where do you think i should go from here? should i just try CIO at a later time? should i just have her catch up on her sleep debt by having her sleep naps and bedtime in the swings and solidifying when her wake times are? the perfect wake times for her are still a mystery to me. haha you'd think i'd have more confidence the second time around knowing how well CIO worked for my son. just wanted to hear your thoughts. should i just do the swing thing, bc it's better than rocking/nursing to sleep, and then just know that i'll have to sleep train her and get rid of the swing later? just the prospect is freaking me out lol. thanks Rachel so much for your thoughts!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17031360186350441060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7230077724876087121.post-25550378860563889872013-08-28T13:06:27.301-06:002013-08-28T13:06:27.301-06:00That's great that things are going well for yo...That's great that things are going well for you Melissa. Hopefully she's start to settle to sleep quickly and without tears soon!<br /><br />RachelRachel Rowellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02160855322599826360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7230077724876087121.post-91030920971556043092013-08-27T23:08:57.854-06:002013-08-27T23:08:57.854-06:00hi Rachel,
thanks for your input - always so insi...hi Rachel,<br /><br />thanks for your input - always so insightful and helpful really! well since I left you that comment last week, I was just putting my 3 wk old down and so I had swaddled her and said "nitenite, nap time "and I had to walk away since my 2 yo was screaming at me to come help him with breakfast. I brought the video monitor with me and I could hear her fussing and then begin a light on/off cry/whimpering. well by the time I finished with my 2yo, she had stopped crying and put herself to sleep. I think it was under 20 min. I decided, let's try this today which worked out since I was home with both kids that day alone. well lo and behold, each time she fussed/cried (more fussing than crying) less than 20min and went to sleep. it was almost to good to be true lol. so anyways, we've been doing that for about 5 days now and she's been doing good. it's a roller coaster, and some days we have short naps and finish them off in the swing. and some days we have great naps! she seems to have a fussy period at least once/twice a day (the time varies) but overall is sleeping in her crib for the most part (or swing) and putting herself to sleep without any rocking on my part. like you said, I kinda wanted to do it but didn't want to make her cry just to cry. but I feel like I do know her a lot better now. we even made it through the 3/4 wk growth spurt earlier this week =) and now she's actually going 3 hours between feeds (previously she had not regularly been doing that). and now at 4 wks old today, her waketime has increased a little bit too after the growth spurt. hopefully this will continue =) thanks again for reminding me to continue to trust my instinct. as days go by, i'm beginning to know her better and better =) she still hates being swaddled but is getting used to it. and with my son when we did CIO, I could not go in at all, or he would cry louder/longer, but with her, I can go in, reswaddle if needed, and she will still put herself to sleep. <br /><br />anyways, thanks again! haha I hope to update you later with better news - no fussing/crying before naps at all!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17031360186350441060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7230077724876087121.post-92118710028617558512013-08-27T22:13:23.047-06:002013-08-27T22:13:23.047-06:00Hunniebee/melissa,
So I'm not really one to le...Hunniebee/melissa,<br />So I'm not really one to leave a brand new baby crying for long periods. Everyone has their own comfort level. FInd yours and be ok with that. It doesn't have to be what someone else does--it needs to be what works for you and feels good to you. And keep in mind that every baby and parent is unique. Some babies sleep about a million times better than others and some parents are more talented at helping their children sleep through experience and also natural talent. I'm guessing that you're a little like me and like to be good at whatever you are doing and the idea that you might not be as good at reading and responding in the most ultimate way to your daughter is down right frustrating and madding--but you can't be perfect at everything and your kids may also have a bit more spunk than many other children. <br /><br />Don't worry about doing it wrong. That never helps things. Just try to take things day by day. You are full of loads of knowledge and just try to examine what is going on every now and then and take it from there. <br /><br />Getting mad with the swaddle happens for quite a few babies. It sometimes has to do with the swaddle, it sometimes has to do with baby knowing it is time to settle and go to sleep. I really don't like putting a baby down upset either. Sometimes swaddling outside the room and walking around the house for a few minutes before going into the room works. Sometimes holding in a carrier for a few minutes before sleep to calm helps. And sometimes if you put baby down it is the quickest thing--working on soothing can end up keeping them awake and fighting longer and longer. My 'sleep hierarchy' is a touch different-- I more balance mom's needs(emotional, physical), baby's sleep needs and baby's sleep habits equally. You have to continually evaluate where you are at and see what needs to be focussed on. Sometimes that means sleep habits are neglected a bit for now, and that is ok. You can work on it more later when baby is a bit older and has a more mature system and doesn't get so overtired. It ends up being ok whatever happens.<br /><br />rachelRachel Rowellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02160855322599826360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7230077724876087121.post-90407117759320373372013-08-21T16:58:40.923-06:002013-08-21T16:58:40.923-06:00hi Rachel!!
i heard the good news - you are expec...hi Rachel!!<br /><br />i heard the good news - you are expecting a third? congrats! well i had my baby girl last month and now she's 3 weeks old. i'm reading all of Valerie's posts again on CIO and all that. i'm not sure i'm ready to start - only because i see all the success Valerie has but her children seem like such good sleepers and then i see all the people posting how their kids are crying for hours without success and it worries me. i don't want to do it wrong - if that make sense. i want to sleep train her meaning i want her to successfully self-soothe. i try to put her down drowsy and a few times she hasn't cried at all and will just fall asleep (sometimes it takes 15-20min though). i'm trying to keep track of wake times and all as well - she usually yawns. something i noticed is that i'll start the nap routine around 35-40min because i know the waketime is usually 45-60min at this age. but when i swaddle her, esp if it's a really good swaddle where she can't move her arms much at all, she gets soooo mad. she could be happy as a clam and then i start the nap routine and i swaddle her and her face gets beet red and she starts fussing/crying and getting pissed off. i know she sleeps better with a swaddle so there's no way i'm NOT swaddling her but what do i do about this ? is this normal? i feel like i can't put her down awake and all pissed off like that. so i try to calm her down and sometimes it takes me 30-45min!!! i'm exhausted! if by 45min she still is not drowsy or asleep, i put her in the swing because of the sleep hierarchy Valerie describes on her website. baby should get some sleep that cycle or else be overtired. i feel like the last few days i've been trying really hard to see if she can go to sleep drowsy on her own but in the meantime, she has gotten overtired over the last few days =( so she's not even sleeping as well at night (she would go 4-5 hrs between feeds at night! and she's gaining weight well!) what do you think i can do to help her at 3 weeks old? thanks so much for your thoughts! we finally are moved into our new house but things are still crazy! lol... <br /><br />~melissaAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17031360186350441060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7230077724876087121.post-52795025117471698882013-05-20T20:45:25.857-06:002013-05-20T20:45:25.857-06:00Good to hear from you hunniebee! Congrats on your ...Good to hear from you hunniebee! Congrats on your soon to be baby girl!<br /><br />You are right, likely all those things you mentioned are making him having some issues with sleep. My guess is that he might also need a little extra sleep right now because of extra fatigue form new stuff--so a bedtime like 30 minutes earlier may help. I would work on offering less support as you go in. So pat him for now as you tell him everything is ok and it's time to go back to sleep (or whatever you say) and then start to pat less and just say something. Then touch once then step back and say something. Just do less as time goes on. He might resist a little at first, but make the change slow and he'll likely calm down quickly. If this was just several days I'd say go along with it, but it's been going on for a good month so it's time to help him ease out of this. Oh, also give some extra 1:1 time with him and each of you each day to see if that helps. Maybe make the pre-sleep routine a bit longer without making the good bye drawn out--that just lets him know there is something to worry about. Good luck with the move and baby and all the crazy things going on in life right now! <br /><br />Rachel<br />Rachel Rowellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02160855322599826360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7230077724876087121.post-49242903199871800462013-05-13T00:17:10.302-06:002013-05-13T00:17:10.302-06:00hi Rachel!!
first, happy Mother's Day!!! hop...hi Rachel!!<br /><br />first, happy Mother's Day!!! hope you had a wonderful day and i'm so appreciative of what you do for other mothers! so thanks!<br /><br />it's been a while! we have been on one nap a day and he usually sleeps 2-2.5 hours and sleeps about 11 hours at night. he is 21 months now! AND we are expecting again another little one, a girl, in 3 months so they will be two years apart. i don't think he totally understands that a baby is coming but nevertheless it is exciting and crazy!<br /><br />well sleep has been pretty good - we went on a cruise last month where he slept in our room and we didn't want him to CIO so if he cried, we would tell him it's nightnight and go back to sleep and usually he would until around 4/5am then he would wake up and want to come in bed with us. he has not slept in our bed at home EVER but alas, it was vacation so we let him come in =) haha for 2 weeks on that cruise! we came back home and after 3-4 days of sleep training and a little bit of CIO, he was back on schedule. well i started him in daycare a few wks after that and i can't believe it, but he naps there for 2 hours mostly! and he hasn't cried once! he's adjusting quite well but he started crying again at night - about 1-2x/night. sometimes it'll be afew days in a row around 2:30/3am or around 5:30/6am. i try to let him CIO and see if he'll go back to sleep but most times, he's REALLY upset and so i go in and pat his back but he doesn't stand up like he used to for me to hold him. he quiets down and i just pat him on the back for a few minutes and walk out and he goes back to sleep eventually. in addition to vacation 6 weeks ago, starting daycare, and the new baby coming, we are MOVING! and we started that about a month ago so the house looks different, more barren. next week we will officially move to the new house and sleep there but for now we are just slowly moving out. <br /><br />you're probably thinking i'm crazy for asking because i'm sure any one or all of these things could be affecting him but he's been crying out at night now for about 3-4 weeks. i just want to make sure this is all normal. and what i guess i can expect when we officially move next week. he's still in his crib (he has not attempted climbing out yet thank goodness!) he goes to bed around 8:30/9p (it's so hard to get him to be earlier esp now that it's summer and parties and bbq's galore =) ) and he wakes up around 8am. he naps around 12-2/2:30p. <br /><br />anyways, i thought i'd say hi and update you! i just hope this crying out at night will stop some day haha. maybe it's just the insomnia, getting up to pee twice a night, and lack of sleep that's talking. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17031360186350441060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7230077724876087121.post-71737168075830173362012-12-07T09:28:46.410-07:002012-12-07T09:28:46.410-07:00Melissa/Hunniebee,
I'd keep up with that one n...Melissa/Hunniebee,<br />I'd keep up with that one nap. I think time and a little adjustment is all you need. Move it a bit later in the morning. Move it slowly. Get him to at least 4 hours. Then as he gets a bit older, you'll move him even later as he he has a harder time falling asleep in the am (trust me, it'll happen, I had a sleepy morning guy, just like you).<br /><br />You are likely right about the cause of the night wakings.<br /><br />Make bedtime earlier, even if he naps those 2 hours. Sounds like he needs it. He may only need it for several days/couple weeks as his body and the nap adjusts. If he takes a short nap, I'd make bedtime even earlier. At this point, an extra nap probably will hurt more than help and it may not happen anyway.Rachel Rowellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02160855322599826360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7230077724876087121.post-26734401917314063532012-12-03T20:13:21.279-07:002012-12-03T20:13:21.279-07:00so i took him out to a playdate this afternoon and...so i took him out to a playdate this afternoon and of course he fell asleep on the way home =) slept for about 30-40min since his 1st nap was shorter than usual. i'm guessing if his 1st nap is 2+ hrs he'll be okay but if shorter than 2 hours, then just have him take a 2nd nap, right? =) Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17031360186350441060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7230077724876087121.post-48450858022007982632012-12-03T14:48:33.261-07:002012-12-03T14:48:33.261-07:00hi Rachel,
okay i'm officially confused. we ...hi Rachel,<br /><br />okay i'm officially confused. we have been doing one nap a day for the past 4 days. today his nap was only 1h 35min. he doesn't wake up crying but just talking to himself. does that mean he is ready for one nap a day? i'm not sure what to do - stick with the one nap? last night he cried twice - 2.5hrs (took a long time to console) and at 3.5 hrs (we didn't go in, stopped after 30sec) after being put to bed. likely due to overtiredness. i am still letting him sleep in which means 9am the past 3-4 days. should i wake him earlier? he's been going to bed around 8:30p. thanks!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17031360186350441060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7230077724876087121.post-70365420904420057702012-12-03T00:15:37.789-07:002012-12-03T00:15:37.789-07:00hi Rachel, hmm.. not sure the nap has transitioned...hi Rachel, hmm.. not sure the nap has transitioned so nicely. today the nap was slightly less than 2 hours which i think is too short for him but we went with it anyways. put him to bed a bit earlier than usual but i could tell he was tired - he wasn't acting tired but more teary/crying than usual. he woke up 2.5 hours after being put down for bed and was crying so we went in there and he was beside himself. kept crying for about 10 min and finally slowed down and we were able to put him down and leave. does this mean he's not ready for 1 nap bc he's TOO overtired for bed? or does this mean i need to put him to bed even earlier?? one of the problems i think is that after three hours of being awake in the morning, he is showing signs of being sleepy - so i put him down for his nap but even with a 2hour nap, that means there's 6.5 hrs till bedtime and that's a long time! should i try to put him down later for the nap even though he's showing me sleepy cues (yawning, tired eyes)? (that way he's not staying up like 6 hours until bedtime??) or is this just the transition period and i need to stick it out?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17031360186350441060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7230077724876087121.post-3746451138856858242012-12-02T18:01:49.877-07:002012-12-02T18:01:49.877-07:00Hunniebee,
If you feel like the nap is established...Hunniebee,<br />If you feel like the nap is established nicely, then I don't think it is an issue if he sleeps in a little. If you are still trying to get the nap stabilized, I'd keep morning wake time the same. That's great news that he's transitioned so nicely!<br /><br />RachelRachel Rowellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02160855322599826360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7230077724876087121.post-38462629688953970562012-12-02T18:00:02.281-07:002012-12-02T18:00:02.281-07:00Hunniebee,
That might be from him getting a little...Hunniebee,<br />That might be from him getting a little overtired as he transitions to one nap.Rachel Rowellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02160855322599826360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7230077724876087121.post-87452861543725270692012-12-02T13:05:50.106-07:002012-12-02T13:05:50.106-07:00also, we had some small crying here and there at n...also, we had some small crying here and there at night but seemed like it was in his sleep because it would only be 2 or 3 cries and then nothing. but no more early morning wakings so far! =) Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17031360186350441060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7230077724876087121.post-65272490210993580822012-12-02T13:04:51.715-07:002012-12-02T13:04:51.715-07:00hi Rachel,
thanks for your reply. yes, i agree wi...hi Rachel,<br /><br />thanks for your reply. yes, i agree with you - the poor naps were likely affecting the night wakings and early morning wakings. so we went to the peds thursday and she confirmed that he could/should go to one nap. so the past 3 days we did that and he did surprisingly well! his 1st and only nap is now approx 2hrs long (yest it was 2h 25min) and he goes to bed still at 8:30p but will sleep until 8:30am. in fact, yesterday and today he woke up at around 9 am. is that okay? to let him sleep in? or should i wake him at 8:30a? one of the mornings, I slept in until 9am and woke up and was startled how late it was but he was still sleeping so i went in and woke him up. i've been tired lately i guess. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17031360186350441060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7230077724876087121.post-51721758770938032762012-11-27T21:48:53.830-07:002012-11-27T21:48:53.830-07:00Well, this night wakings could be due to the diffi...Well, this night wakings could be due to the difficulty napping. Everything causes issue with everything else!<br /><br />It isn't too uncommon to drop a nap once you get to 45 minutes/1 hour. Going less than that can be tricky for a lot of kids. If he wont' fall asleep for that second nap, even really late then I think pushing the first nap later and moving bedtime a bit earlier might be your best bet. Give it several days. You can always go back to how things were before if you need to. Around this age my kids struggled with the 2 naps too. Most kids do fine with 2 hours of sleep. My oldest slept 3 hours or so for a couple years but my youngest did 2-3 hours (some 1.5 hours in there every so often too) during the transitoin time then mainly 2 hours after that, sometimes a bit more, sometimes a bit less.Rachel Rowellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02160855322599826360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7230077724876087121.post-22411519751706607322012-11-26T18:37:18.106-07:002012-11-26T18:37:18.106-07:00okay he just woke up crying 20min after sleeping =...okay he just woke up crying 20min after sleeping =( gonna go get him. early bedtime for sure today!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17031360186350441060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7230077724876087121.post-58422594417829108172012-11-26T18:31:57.546-07:002012-11-26T18:31:57.546-07:00i was thinking more about what you said. i think ...i was thinking more about what you said. i think given the circumstances, dropping the 2nd nap would make more sense as it seems to be later and later to me - like 5p some days! i'd rather put him to bed earlier than have him take that nap and wake up at 6p. when your kids went to 1 nap, was it 2 hours - is that enough??Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17031360186350441060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7230077724876087121.post-89551655840578008762012-11-26T18:26:13.158-07:002012-11-26T18:26:13.158-07:00hi Rachel,
hope you had a great thanksgiving! oka...hi Rachel,<br />hope you had a great thanksgiving! okay i'm beside myself. this has been going on almost 3 weeks. bad naps, crying out at night a few times every night, early wakings. i still think he's teething but is this normal behavior? i tried pushing back the first nap and sometimes he'll sleep 1.5 hours and sometimes 2 hours. the 2nd nap sometimes he'll go down easy and sleep 1 hour and i have to wake him and sometimes he'll fight it but eventually fall asleep. whenever he sleeps for his 2nd nap, i usually have to wake him bc it'll push bedtime back too late. i let him sleep an hour usually for the 2nd nap. but today he cried 15min HARD before falling asleep for his 2nd nap. as soon as we said, naptime, he threw a FIT, cried his eyes out! we calmed him down but when we said naptime again, he threw a FIT. i'm not sure what to do. he only slept 1h 40min in his 1st nap today but he seemed REALLY tired. couldn't make it to bedtime if no 2nd nap in my opinion. what do you think i should do? should i just try dropping the 2nd nap and see how he does? <br /><br />he used to wake up at 8:30, 1st nap around 11/11:15a, then 2nd nap at 4:30p then bedtime at 9:30p. now when i put him to bed at 9/9:15p, he sometimes doesn't actually sleep til 9:45p and then we have been going in at least once during the night most nights because he's crying and then he is awake anytime from 7:30a-8:30a. i feel like 9-10 hrs asleep at night is NOT enough for him. he was a consistent 11hr sleeper before this at night. i know you know he's sensitive to the amount of sleep he gets at day/night. do you think it would have changed so drastically from 14hrs/24 hr period to 12/13 hrs? <br /><br />i am afraid to shorten the first nap because it seems like today he shortened his 1st nap himself to 1 hr 40min and then refused to go down for his 2nd nap. the other thing is, it might just be him throwing a tantrum more than not needing the sleep. it's so hard to tell. he's been throwing more fits lately - when he doesn't get what he wants, when he's being scolded, and today, when he was told it was naptime. <br /><br />so what did you do with your boys? did you bite the bullet and just drop the 2nd nap cold turkey and deal with the overtiredness until they got used to only 1 nap a day? <br /><br />thanks so much for your help...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17031360186350441060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7230077724876087121.post-5751972478118594942012-11-20T09:50:34.840-07:002012-11-20T09:50:34.840-07:00Hunniebee,
keep in mind that the wonder weeks ofte...Hunniebee,<br />keep in mind that the wonder weeks often last longer as children get older. So that could still be adding to things.<br /><br />He has always been sensitive with his sleep amount hasn't he. So I wonder if that is the going on again. I shorten which nap a child will wake up better from, which one works around my routine better, which one makes the most sense for the future etc. It depends a lot I suppose and is done on individual circumstances. In your situation, it might be pretty tricky to get that last nap shorter. I know some kids do fine with it, but mine didn't do great with like 20 minutes and then I had to worry if they took longer falling asleep and wonder if they were only asleep for like 5 and what affect that would have. BUT, you are getting closer to dropping down to just one nap, so maybe that is the one to wean and eventually go as you move the morning one a little later to get it closer to an afternoon nap. If that doesn't work and you shorten morning instead, then it'll probably lengthen out a gain when you totally drop the afternoon/evening nap.Rachel Rowellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02160855322599826360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7230077724876087121.post-59927277540733218242012-11-19T15:11:20.029-07:002012-11-19T15:11:20.029-07:00hi Rachel!! yes, how time flies, right?? =) than...hi Rachel!! yes, how time flies, right?? =) thanks so much for your quick reply! honestly, he is a pretty good sleeper overall, now that i talk to some other moms more regularly =) lol... but yeah i didn't think it was the late bedtime because i have sorta changed when he goes to bed - i.e. put him down earlier or later and it still resulted in early wakings the past week. the reason i thought teething might play a role (either a little one or a large one) is because he's definitely been drooling more, sucking fingers more, and more clingy. some of the clinginess and sleep issues i thought might be the wonder week too but usually it only lasts a week and this is seeming a bit longer. the other thing is the morning nap is almost always 2 hours and hasn't been totally affected. only the afternoon nap that one time and then the early wakings. but yeah i was wondering the same thing - if he needed less day sleep. and because i don't want to put him to bed too late, he's not really up for a long time between 2nd nap and bedtime. if i decide to shorten naps, should i shorten the morning or the afternoon one? i know you can do it either way. how do you decide though? thanks!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17031360186350441060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7230077724876087121.post-43784089568425281122012-11-19T14:10:47.190-07:002012-11-19T14:10:47.190-07:00Wow, almost 16 months old! He is growing up so muc...Wow, almost 16 months old! He is growing up so much! I guess that is expected as times passes, but still, it always amazes me!<br /><br />I wouldn't completely rule out the bedtime, but you are right, it isn't the first thing I'd think of. It is still possible though as a late bedtime causing issues can pop up at any time.<br /><br />Teething might be the issues. when he gets into light sleep in the morning it may be bothering him. I'd kind of expect him to have issues at the earlier hours of the night, but it doesn't always happen. Some kids will wake go through a sleep cycle in the am and they can be roused and stay awake easily. I'd say this is a possibility but not extremely likely, especially if he's not at a lot of distress at other parts of the day. To help, you mainly have to wait it out. You can't really medicate int he middle of the night. THere are amber necklaces, but you'll have to see if you feel ok having him sleep with one of those. They usually aren't very long.<br /><br />you can try the wake to sleep method<br /><br />I wonder if he needs a little less day sleep or a slightly later bedtime until his nap is dropped or weaned more.<br /><br />Rachel<br /><br />Rachel Rowellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02160855322599826360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7230077724876087121.post-20441435279408374052012-11-19T09:05:04.304-07:002012-11-19T09:05:04.304-07:00btw, i remember you saying that these issues might...btw, i remember you saying that these issues might come up with such a late bedtime.. is that it?? i feel like my gut says it isn't since he has been doing that for the past 6 months or so. thanks again!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17031360186350441060noreply@blogger.com